{"id":1844,"date":"2021-03-26T09:29:00","date_gmt":"2021-03-26T16:29:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/dornsife.usc.edu\/news\/stories\/course-teaches-students-that-discussing-ideas-is-better-than-arguing-over-them\/"},"modified":"2024-05-28T15:45:46","modified_gmt":"2024-05-28T22:45:46","slug":"course-teaches-dialogue-over-arguing","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/dornsife.usc.edu\/news\/stories\/course-teaches-dialogue-over-arguing\/","title":{"rendered":"Course teaches students that discussing ideas is better than arguing over them"},"content":{"rendered":"\n\n\n    \n            \n\n  \n    \n\n\n\n\n\n\n<div\n  class=\"cc--component-container cc--article-hero \"\n\n  \n  \n  \n  \n  \n  \n  >\n  <div class=\"c--component c--article-hero\"\n    \n      >\n\n    \n<div class=\"inner-wrapper\">\n          \n<div class=\"f--field f--image\">\n\n    \n    \n    \n    \n    \n    \n              \n      <img\n                            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person may go for a walk in the forest and see \u201ca bunch of trees.\u201d But a botanist taking that same stroll would likely see a host of beech trees, along with some dogwoods, black walnuts and white pines. The person that sees only a mass of trees may not care if one or several are cut down, but the botanist would have a more nuanced view of the situation, understanding the differences between the species and the consequences of each one\u2019s removal.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cMaking decisions based on simplistic categories does harm,\u201d says\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/dornsife.usc.edu\/cf\/faculty-and-staff\/faculty.cfm?pid=1058166\">Jim Clements<\/a>, associate professor (teaching) of\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/dornsife.usc.edu\/the-writing-program\/\">writing<\/a>\u00a0at the USC Dornsife College of Letters, Arts and Sciences, during his Writing 150 course \u201cWriting Across the Aisle.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The class went on to discuss philosophers Simone Weil and Emmanuel Levinas and the concepts of \u201csame\u201d and \u201cother\u201d before turning to how these ideas are enmeshed in the framing of debate. The use of such terms as \u201cattack,\u201d \u201cdefending your point,\u201d \u201ccounter-attacks\u201d and \u201cstrategy\u201d are evidence that the goal of many debates is not to connect or grow or learn, but to win against an \u201copponent.\u201d Clements suggests, instead, using the metaphor of dance: Two people are engaged in a delicate push and pull, not to beat each other, but to create something beautiful together.<\/p>\n<p>The class finished with Clements pairing students up in teams for an assignment in which they address a topic but \u201cdo more than agree or disagree\u201d on it. For example, the first writer could write about how more funding for public broadcasting is needed in order to boost minority voices. The second writer selects a facet of that essay on which to build \u2014 perhaps by pointing out the success of films like \u201cBlack Panther\u201d and suggesting that minority voices aren\u2019t any less profitable.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cYour goal is not to tell the other person something you already know; it\u2019s to use the back-and-forth as a site of learning,\u201d Clements concludes, just before the students go to their breakout rooms for the rest of the session.<\/p>\n<h2>Listening, not telling<\/h2>\n<figure style=\"width: 315px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/7\/migration-uploads\/WritingAcrossAisle_InStoryA-3435.jpg\" alt=\"Photo of Jim Clements sitting on steps leading to a closed door.\" width=\"315\" height=\"490\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-caption-text\">Jim Clements created and leads the Writing 150 course \u201cWriting Across the Aisle.\u201d (Photo: Courtesy of Jim Clements.)<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Clements says he first was inspired to create the course about seven years ago, after observing that his students often say that they feel that nobody listens to each other and that repercussions for \u201csaying the wrong thing\u201d are dire. Thus, they often prefer to say nothing at all.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think there\u2019s certainly a feeling among students \u2014 and I\u2019ll be honest, particularly among my sort of right-leaning students \u2014 that if they share their political beliefs, it could lead to terrible consequences,\u201d Clements explains.<\/p>\n<p>Romano Orlando, a senior majoring in\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/dornsife.usc.edu\/fren-ital\/italian-major\/\">Italian<\/a>\u00a0and\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/dornsife.usc.edu\/usc-neuroscience\/\">neuroscience<\/a>\u00a0at USC Dornsife and pursuing a concurrent master\u2019s degree in translational biotechnology at\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/keck.usc.edu\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Keck School of Medicine of USC<\/a>, says that as a more conservative student, he found the class to be a refreshingly judgment-free zone.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI never felt singled out, or that I would get a worse grade for leaning more conservative. It was about the content of your writing, not the leaning of your writing,\u201d he says. \u201cThe students really modeled after Jim Clements when he would not degrade someone for having a viewpoint. It created, from the top down, a safe space to really talk about things.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Clements notes that his class is not an \u201canti-cancel culture class,\u201d either. Instead, it aims to discover what belief systems are at the foundation of the positions that people hold, and how we can listen to each other to understand those systems better, before making our moral choices. Rather than viewing \u201cthe other side\u201d as a bunch of trees, he hopes to show that each person has thought processes that make their viewpoints, if not unique, then certainly highly individualized. Discussing those underlying beliefs is where dialogue takes place, he says.<\/p>\n<p>Orlando adds that for two people holding different views on an issue like abortion, it\u2019s more effective for each person to self-examine why they hold the positions they do, and why others hold theirs, rather than for each to present a list of arguments aimed at getting the other person to fully agree to the arguer\u2019s own values. In addition to encouraging self-reflection, this practice helps students understand that they don\u2019t have to adhere to a package of beliefs simply because their \u201cside\u201d does.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cIt added some nuance and helped me to \u2026 instead of just drinking whatever Kool-Aid or package I choose to drink, dig deep into my own thoughts and become more of an individual rather than just another political consumer of, \u2018I agree with this. I agree with that,\u2019\u201d Orlando says.\u00a0\u00a0\u201cThat really was very, very freeing, to not be just another one of the packaged consumers, but to be deep in understanding and knowing in my heart of hearts why I believe something.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Clements adds that he plans to continue offering the class. The lacerations in our society remain deep, he says, and we need to understand why they exist before we can start to heal them.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<\/div>\n\n\n  <\/div><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>USC Dornsife professor Jim Clements\u2019 \u201cWriting Across the Aisle\u201d class examines how dialogue \u2014 not debate \u2014 fosters growth and cooperation even among people with the most different of viewpoints. <strong>[4\u00bc min read]<\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":52,"featured_media":1847,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[17],"tags":[485,105,136],"class_list":["post-1844","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-student","tag-jim-clements","tag-politics","tag-writing-program"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.1.1 - 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