{"id":19737,"date":"2025-04-09T10:33:31","date_gmt":"2025-04-09T17:33:31","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/dornsife.usc.edu\/eri\/?p=19737"},"modified":"2025-04-09T13:55:50","modified_gmt":"2025-04-09T20:55:50","slug":"power-in-the-desert-interview-rodriguez-nuesch","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/dornsife.usc.edu\/eri\/2025\/04\/09\/power-in-the-desert-interview-rodriguez-nuesch\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;Power in the Desert&#8221; &#8211; a Q&amp;A with Emiliano Rodriguez Nuesch"},"content":{"rendered":"\n\n\n\n\n  \n    \n\n\n\n\n\n\n<div\n  class=\"cc--component-container cc--article-hero \"\n\n  \n  \n  \n  \n  \n  \n  >\n  <div class=\"c--component c--article-hero\"\n    \n      >\n\n    \n<div class=\"inner-wrapper\">\n          \n<div class=\"f--field f--image\">\n\n    \n    \n    \n    \n    \n    \n              \n      <img\n                            data-src=\"https:\/\/dornsife.usc.edu\/eri\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/41\/2025\/04\/ERI-News-Power-in-the-Desert-768x432.png\"\n          data-srcset=\"https:\/\/dornsife.usc.edu\/eri\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/41\/2025\/04\/ERI-News-Power-in-the-Desert-1920x1080.png 1920w,https:\/\/dornsife.usc.edu\/eri\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/41\/2025\/04\/ERI-News-Power-in-the-Desert-1280x720.png 1280w,https:\/\/dornsife.usc.edu\/eri\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/41\/2025\/04\/ERI-News-Power-in-the-Desert-768x432.png 768w\"          data-sizes=\"(min-width:1200px) 75vw, (min-width:768px) 83vw, 100vw\"          class=\"lazyload\"\n        \n                  alt=\"Four people are standing on a sandy hill in the Salton Sea area. A camera man, the director, and an onlooker are filming a woman talking about the issues in the region.\"\n        \n        \n                                      \/>\n\n    \n    \n  \n  \n\n<\/div>\n  \n  \n  <div class=\"text-wrapper\">\n    \n              \n<div class=\"f--field f--page-title\">\n\n    \n  <h1>&#8220;Power in the Desert&#8221; &#8211; a Q&amp;A with Emiliano Rodriguez Nuesch<\/h1>\n\n\n<\/div>\n    \n    \n          <strong class=\"author-field\"><span >By<\/span>ERI Communications (interview by Austin Mendoza, ERI Data Analyst)<\/strong>\n    \n          <span class=\"post-date-field\">April 9, 2025<\/span>\n      <\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n  <\/div><\/div>\n\n  \n    \n\n\n\n\n\n\n<div\n  class=\"cc--component-container cc--social-share \"\n\n  \n  \n  \n  \n  \n  \n  >\n  <div class=\"c--component c--social-share\"\n    \n      >\n\n    \n  <div class=\"content-wrapper\">\n    <span class=\"a2a_kit a2a_kit_size_32 addtoany_list\" style=\"line-height: 32px;\">\n    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noreferrer\" data-msys-clicktrack=\"0\">Emiliano Rodriguez Nuesch<\/a> to talk about the film\u2019s journey\u2014from the Salton Sea to the Lithium Triangle. In this interview, Emiliano reflects on the creative process, the film\u2019s key themes, and the ways distant communities are linked by a shared stake in the lithium energy transition and the green future.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<h2 dir=\"ltr\"><strong>What motivated you to create <em>Power in the Desert<\/em>?<\/strong><\/h2>\n<blockquote>\n<p dir=\"ltr\"><span data-ogsc=\"rgb(0, 0, 0)\">When I met Chris Benner and Manuel Pastor, I learned about the realities facing local communities around the Salton Sea\u2014communities deeply affected by the so-called lithium promise. I also began to understand what green justice and community benefits mean in the context of California\u2019s energy transition.<\/span><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\"><span data-ogsc=\"rgb(0, 0, 0)\">That made me wonder: how does this apply in the Global South? I saw an opportunity to visit northern Argentina and Chile, where lithium is extracted, to explore what\u2019s happening on the ground, compare different realities, and create space for shared learning. I felt there was a story that needed to be told.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<h2 dir=\"ltr\"><strong>What was the process of creating <em>Power in the Deser<\/em>t, and how did that inform the final cut?<\/strong><\/h2>\n<blockquote>\n<p dir=\"ltr\"><span data-ogsc=\"rgb(0, 0, 0)\">It was very much a personal journey. I set out on a road trip across three deserts in three countries, meeting incredible people along the way. Each one offered a unique perspective on how their communities are navigating the energy transition\u2014what it means for them, and how they\u2019re choosing to respond. That lived experience shaped the tone and structure of the film.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<h2 dir=\"ltr\"><strong>How does <em>Power in the Desert<\/em> supplement the story and themes of Charging Forward?<\/strong><\/h2>\n<blockquote>\n<p dir=\"ltr\"><span data-ogsc=\"rgb(17, 17, 17)\">Power in the Desert zooms out to offer a regional perspective and explore how communities in both the North and South are affected by different stages of the electric battery supply chain.<\/span><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\"><span data-ogsc=\"rgb(0, 0, 0)\">In the South, many of the people affected by lithium extraction don\u2019t even have access to electric cars\u2014most have never even seen one. Their visions of the future are shaped by entirely different realities.<\/span><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\"><span data-ogsc=\"rgb(0, 0, 0)\">At the same time, the film reveals common ground: communities in both the North and South are asking the same questions\u2014how can they benefit, and how can they be meaningfully included in decision-making?<\/span><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\"><span data-ogsc=\"rgb(0, 0, 0)\">How did you aim to use film as a medium to communicate the stories of the Imperial Valley and the Lithium Triangle, and the ways in which the regions are interconnected?<\/span><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\"><span data-ogsc=\"rgb(0, 0, 0)\">I wanted to give visibility to the people living in these affected regions. Even though they\u2019re worlds apart, they\u2019re connected through the global supply chain for electric vehicle batteries.<\/span><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\"><span data-ogsc=\"rgb(0, 0, 0)\">Just like we\u2019ve developed fair trade labels for coffee or chocolate, conscious consumers of electric vehicles may begin to ask where the lithium in their batteries comes from\u2014and whether it was extracted sustainably. Storytelling can help make these invisible connections visible.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<h2 dir=\"ltr\"><strong>What do you hope audiences take away from <em>Power in the Desert<\/em>?<\/strong><\/h2>\n<blockquote>\n<p dir=\"ltr\"><span data-ogsc=\"rgb(0, 0, 0)\">I hope the film sparks real conversations about what sustainable development should look like\u2014and what conditions are necessary to make the clean energy transition fair and inclusive.<\/span><\/p>\n<p dir=\"ltr\"><span data-ogsc=\"rgb(0, 0, 0)\">As Manuel Pastor puts it, the climate crisis is a crisis of disconnection: from nature and from each other. I hope this film can be a connector\u2014bridging distant places, people, and perspectives in ways that lead to new forms of solidarity.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<\/div>\n\n\n  <\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n\n  \n    \n\n\n\n\n\n\n<div\n  class=\"cc--component-container cc--rich-text \"\n\n  \n  \n  \n  \n  \n  \n  >\n  <div class=\"c--component c--rich-text\"\n    \n      >\n\n    \n      \n<div class=\"f--field f--wysiwyg\">\n\n    \n  <div class=\"eds-l-mar-vert-6 eds-l-sm-mar-vert-4 eds-text-bm structured-content-rich-text\">\n<div class=\"eds-text--left\">\n<hr \/>\n<h2>Join us for the Premiere and Online Film Screening &#8211; April 22, 2025!<\/h2>\n<p><em>Power in the Desert<\/em> is a documentary that lifts up voices from communities impacted by new lithium developments in Argentina, Chile, and California, highlighting some of the dilemmas, challenges, and opportunities in this moment. This virtual event will be the first public release of the full 55-minute documentary.<\/p>\n<p><strong>April 22nd, 2025<br \/>\n<\/strong><strong>4:00 PM to 5:30 PM<\/strong><br \/>\n<strong>On Vimeo<br \/>\n<\/strong><a class=\"cta-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.eventbrite.com\/e\/power-in-the-desert-documentary-film-screening-and-discussion-tickets-1285126210089?aff=oddtdtcreator\">RSVP<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"eds-l-mar-vert-6 eds-l-sm-mar-vert-4 eds-text-bm structured-content-rich-text\">\n<div class=\"eds-text--left\">\n<p>Presenters include:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a title=\"https:\/\/blogs.worldbank.org\/en\/team\/e\/emiliano-rodriguez-nuesch\" href=\"https:\/\/blogs.worldbank.org\/en\/team\/e\/emiliano-rodriguez-nuesch\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" data-msys-clicktrack=\"0\">Emiliano Rodriguez Nuesch<\/a>, Film Director\/Producer<\/li>\n<li><a title=\"http:\/\/ivequityjustice.org\/\" href=\"http:\/\/ivequityjustice.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" data-msys-clicktrack=\"0\">Daniela Flores<\/a>, Executive Organizer at Imperial Valley Equity &amp; Justice<\/li>\n<li><a title=\"https:\/\/www.chargingforwardbook.org\/authors\" href=\"https:\/\/www.chargingforwardbook.org\/authors\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" data-msys-clicktrack=\"0\">Chris Benner<\/a>, Director of the Institute for Social Transformation at UC Santa Cruz<\/li>\n<li><a title=\"https:\/\/www.chargingforwardbook.org\/authors\" href=\"https:\/\/www.chargingforwardbook.org\/authors\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" data-msys-clicktrack=\"0\">Manuel Pastor<\/a>, Director of the Equity Research Institute (ERI) at the University of Southern California<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"eds-l-mar-vert-6 eds-l-sm-mar-vert-4 eds-text-bm structured-content-rich-text\">\n<div class=\"eds-text--left\">\n<p>To get a glimpse of the forthcoming full-length documentary, view the trailer:\u00a0<a title=\"https:\/\/www.chargingforwardbook.org\/videos\" href=\"https:\/\/www.chargingforwardbook.org\/videos\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\" data-msys-clicktrack=\"0\">https:\/\/www.chargingforwardbook.org\/videos<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<\/div>\n\n\n  <\/div><\/div>\n\n\n\n  \n      \n  \n    \n\n\n\n\n\n\n<div\n  class=\"cc--component-container cc--article-related-stories \"\n\n  \n  \n  \n  \n  \n  \n  >\n  <div class=\"c--component c--article-related-stories\"\n    \n      >\n\n    \n  <div class=\"inner-wrapper\">\n              \n<div class=\"f--field f--section-title\">\n\n    \n  <h2>\n          Explore other articles\n      <\/h2>\n\n\n<\/div>\n    \n                  <article>\n              \n<div class=\"f--field f--cta-title\">\n\n    \n  <h3>\n          <a href=\"https:\/\/dornsife.usc.edu\/eri\/2023\/05\/02\/the-eri-team\/\" \n                        class=\"\" \n      >Meet the ERI Team<\/a>\n      <\/h3>\n\n\n<\/div>\n        <\/article>\n              <article>\n              \n<div class=\"f--field f--cta-title\">\n\n    \n  <h3>\n          <a href=\"https:\/\/dornsife.usc.edu\/eri\/2023\/06\/01\/welcome-eri-site-2023\/\" \n                        class=\"\" \n      >A new look for ERI&#8217;s website!<\/a>\n      <\/h3>\n\n\n<\/div>\n        <\/article>\n            <\/div>\n\n\n  <\/div><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"","protected":false},"author":40,"featured_media":19789,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[318,279,11],"tags":[319,18,350,47,66,351,352],"class_list":["post-19737","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-charging-forward","category-ej","category-eri-news","tag-charging-forward","tag-climate-equity","tag-documentary","tag-environmental-justice","tag-interview","tag-lithium-valley","tag-qa"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.1.1 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>&quot;Power in the Desert&quot; 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